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Sure, but I think your insight will be enough. Thanks.

I base morality more on how easy it can be to identify what's "bad" and then there is a wealth of neutral actions and some good ones. I think I have the same moral structure as my host, but with much more flexibility when situations change.

Is it just me, or does time seem to go by faster when not fronting?

perception of time is a weird thing in general, but depending on where you go when you're not fronting (I know of like 3 different common answers to that) it can definitely cause that

I mean, in the moment, it seems normal, but when I think back, it feels like it went by faster. Like reading a book, or having fun.

6:06 AM

...Hmmm. Now I just need to learn how to slow down time, so I can have longer weekends!

I read somewhere that time doesn't actually seem to go by faster while having fun, it seems to have gone by faster after having fun, so maybe you tend to enjoy whatever it is you do when not fronting

Think it might have something to do with remembering?

6:08 AM

Perhaps less memories are formed when in back?

6:08 AM

No idea.

memory of an experience definitely can differ from the experience itself, so maybe

I think that's the main part influencing the perception of passing time. How one stores memories influences the sense of how long a certain time is. This is frequently the case when an adult notices the impatience of a child: many children have an exaggerated sense of slowness for the passage of time because all of their experience is dense with important milestones that likely results in shorter time frames being identified as "important" and therefore much longer than what the adult may think of as "important"

3:44 PM

I can see how a developing tulpa could slow down perception of passing time by having many important milestones in their memories to raise the sensation of the value of passing time, I know I definitely did, but overall it is just a matter of how memories are perceived more than the in-the-moment sensation.

serious tulpa question here

9:36 PM

do tulpas who possess usually have to learn to move the body?

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like is it hard?

it can be, at first anyway

9:36 PM

it gets easier over time, and eventually becomes fairly effortless

because when I'm possessed (?) I have no problem operating the body, albeit my movements are a bit stiffer and more mechanical

It is not hard. I have heard people claim they need to learn this, but it is silly. This is a muscle memory thing, not a personality thing. It should be very easy.

so I am unsure as to whether I am actually possessing or host is simply believing I am

that's totally normal. Like Harleen says, you can access the muscle memory. You're not a physical baby, it's silly to think you'd need to learn that stuff.

I do have a different body language than him, I am sure

It might be the latter as you haven't been around for too long. Have you been forcing and narrating?

Alright.

also, I have a slight preference to the left hand but because muscle memory I use the right a lot

9:38 PM

@Clo I think my host has...

9:38 PM

he has mostly allowed me to force myself recently, in allowing me to interact online

9:39 PM

he has not done much narration

9:39 PM

honestly we do not talk explicity to each other very much

9:39 PM

mostly through mutual feelings and emotions

If your host is right handed, you are right handed. If you cannot use the left hand even remotely as well on dexterity based skills, you are right handed.

9:41 PM

You could learn to be ambidextrous, but as of now, based on what you have said, you are right handed and I am unsure why you would think otherwise.

My host is currently ambi

9:43 PM

Therefore, using my left hand is not hard

9:43 PM

it is simply a matter of wherever the tool is in relation to the nearest hand

Alright.

is there a way for me to develop verbal speech better with my host?

9:46 PM

I mean, head talk, so to say

9:47 PM

Like occassionally he will go on walks and ask random questions

Just try to communicate in that way more often.

and he will hear a response and think it is me

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and I myself am unsure if they are me

andddddd I lost the front

9:47 PM

faccccccckkkkk

oh

basically, I'll say shit and hear a yes|no response

9:48 PM

and it certainly seems like it could be her

Then how is she speaking in here?

but it's often not distinct enough to say for sure, and usually the questions are obvious enough that my subconscious could have made them up like, for instance Ikari, am I a worthless piece of shit? No ^ this voice....is this her? I think it is but IDK? I didn't intentionally answer but....the question is so obvious...get what I'm saying?

9:50 PM

@Feral when I focus on her and blocking myself out, I can hear what is clearly her voice

9:51 PM

but I can barely focus on both of us at once

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which is why it's so hard to directly interact outside the dreamworld

Why isn't there more complex answers to questions if she is verbal in here and with you?

usually because during such walks, I'm focused on my own train of thought

9:52 PM

If I were to stop and really focus on listening, I could hear for certain

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but ideally I want her to be able to speak up so I can hear her above everything else

Are you sure it's her and not just you?

I don't know for sure...that's my fear

That appears to be what he's asking, Feral.

sometimes I'm so focused on her, and thoughts are still coming

9:53 PM

her speech patterns differ from mine

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so I suspect it's her

Then you should take a step back and start from square one to ensure that everything is fully developed instead of having her out here, where it could possibly not be her

but she's not a clear voice when she fronts, merely words that write themselves on the screen

9:54 PM

much like the way I type

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I type the first thing that comes to mind, without rehearsing

Speech patterns

but like when I type, I don't even have a clear voice

9:54 PM

my thoughts write themselves without thinking about it

9:55 PM

often I will re-read back to myself the words as I write them

9:55 PM

she will do the same, but in her voice

It is very easy to speak differently than you normally would. I would not rely solely on speech patterns.

so I don't know if she actually has a voice or if I have simply created a second phony identity

It's probably your internal voice if that's the case

what's my internal voice?

Considering the inexperience and how long you have been here, you're probably still in the starting stages and getting confused with what is and what isn't

yes, duh

9:56 PM

at first I thought I heard her clearly....no, I did hear her clearly

9:56 PM

she didn't speak much, but she was there

9:57 PM

but then, she became less clear

You might have let your imagination run a bit wild then.

Your internal monologue that isn't another being, for example, questioning yourself and responding in a certain manner that seems rather consistent instead of having varying views and opinions

especially as she started interacting independently

If I were you, I would just calm down, and try to go a bit slower.

and she has also been doing things I would not do

Creating tulpas is not a race.

for instance when she attempted to do math for fun

9:58 PM

I wouldn't bother with such garbage

9:58 PM

I was quite angry when failing, however she remained calm

This kind of comes off as some sort of alter ego that fulfills what you can't fulfill

so was this her or me simply suppressing emotions? I don't know.

Self control isn't that hard once you're able to manage it, maybe it's projection of the person you want to be and are scared of showing

From what I have seen, many new "tulpas" try to behave in a way that is extremely different from the host, as a way to stand out, immediately, especially if you are doing this around other people, as a way to show progress.

IE being Christian despite Ikari being highly sexual, kind of comes off a bit odd

And especially last night when she was playing dnd, I feel like the lines got really blurred between our personalities

10:00 PM

then again, she was rping as ME

10:00 PM

so that didn't help

There's no way that anyone here can give you a definitive answer on what's happening inside of your head. It's very easy for the mind to fill in the blanks, especially when you're asking simple questions and expecting a certain kind of personality to respond to them.

@Feral this is a common misconception, there's no reason you can't be sexual while being a Christian...